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Speakers: |
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ST: |
Skip Taylor,
County Mayor |
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BC: |
Buck
Chambers, Mayor of Piperton |
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BM: |
Bob Morris,
Mayor of Somerville |
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NA: |
Nolan Autin,
Oakland Representative |
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NJ: |
Nancy
Johnson, Mayor of Moscow |
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LG: |
Bill Cowan,
Mayor of LaGrange |
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FC: |
Frances
Cantrell, City Recorder for Gallaway |
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??: |
Couldn’t
tell who was speaking |
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The hearing at Oakland was for citizens of Hickory
Withe to express their concerns offer some planned annexations by Oakland in
the Hickory Withe area. |
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ST: |
Sent out a letter to everybody. Everybody got the same
letter except for Oakland. Oakland has basically the same information just
sort of telling him the steps he had to go through to make sure he did it
right.
Has anybody taken the step to move forward to amend or
address your UGBs (UGB=Urban Growth Boundary)? |
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BC: |
We’re working on it now.
In fact, we’re setting up a meeting with Mr. Gaither.
And our city engineer with your planning guy. We’re going to get together
with Gaither and work together.
And also with Mr. Mullins in Oakland. In fact, we’ve
got a meeting October 6th with the Lt Governor (John Wilder) on this.
Mullins, myself, and the west TN guys. |
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ST: |
OK. Not a problem.
What I told Mayor Mullins in my letter was that he was
going to be my guinea pig since he sort of passed a resolution. He’s showed
his intent to start but he had not, at least not to me, shown what area he
wanted to annex. That’s something he needed to do. Sit down with his board
or engineer or however they want to go about it. Then he had to have
meetings, public meetings, and the board will have to vote on whatever
information. Then they would come to the Coordinating Committee.
I was trying to get an idea when to try to set this
Coordinating Committee depending on what he did.
If anybody else moves quicker than Oakland, we could
set the meeting up earlier unless we want to try to coordinate… I’d like to
coordinate this as best as possible. If we have three or four cities, or if
everybody’s going to do something, try to sit down with everybody coming in at
pretty much the same time. We can have a couple of large meetings and go
that route. |
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BC: |
I’m sure…
We got our preliminary urban growth setup. It’s
preliminary only. Before it goes, we’ve got to sit down and look at it. But,
it’ll be done next week. The whole situation. |
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ST: |
Nolan, do you know sort of where you all are in that?
Mayor Mullins didn’t tell me. He wanted it done quickly.
He wanted it done, but he didn’t tell me what he was
doing on his end so I don’t know where he is in the process. Do you happen
to know? |
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NA: |
Our last
discussion was we needed to get some information. You have some information,
the procedures that he had to go through. |
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ST: |
That’s what
was in the letter I sent to him. |
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NA: |
Oh, you did
send it |
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ST: |
I told him
where in the law he needed to look. I’m sure his planners already knew that.
I just told him where to look and to make sure he followed that, those
rules. |
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NA: |
Well, I
don’t know where we stand at this point, but I’ll definitely get with him. |
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ST: |
OK. No
problem. |
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NA: |
I’ll get an
update of where we stand and try to get a timeframe. |
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ST: |
And I did mention to him that the largest city has a
couple of more people they can put on it. The largest municipal utility gets
represented. I’m assuming that would be Somerville’s, but I’m not positive.
And the largest municipality gets to put, I think, two extra members.
I didn’t know who’s larger and which number you use to
determine who’s larger.
I told him to get in contact with you [Bob Morris] to
find out. |
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BM: |
In reality,
I’m sure they’re larger now. But, as far as the census. |
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ST: |
Since this is a state law, I couldn’t find where you
had to use the census in there. It may well be in there. I just didn’t see
it.
If that’s the case… |
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BM: |
As long as we’re gonna all go to the table with a good,
open mind. Let’s get this thing done.
I am not going to make a (??) and spend months on this. |
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ST: |
I agree. If
y’all can sit and hash it out, if there’s any hashing to do. Let you all
work that out and come to the table. |
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BM: |
If he wants something, then we’ll all probably get
some, too.
We’ve started to work on ours. |
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ST: |
Those are
the only two little hiccoughs in it. Sort of timeframe. Make sure everyone
goes through everything. |
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BM: |
The thing
you sent to Bill, the copy of the rules and everything. Did you send the
rules to the rest of us? |
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ST: |
I sent the TCA portion to
everybody. Those are the same TCA’s I sent to him but I went into more
detail just saying, “These are what you’ve got to do. You’ve got to have
your committee meetings and you’ve got to do this first and this second and
this third..”
Basically, same thing. You’ve got to decide what you
want to annex. Not annex, but include in your growth boundary. Have whatever
process you want. You’ve also got to back it up |
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BM: |
Looking out
20 years, right? |
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ST: |
Looking out 20 years. The law says you’re supposed to
use UT data. I don’t even know if UT’s data is up to date anymore. So I
think that’s sort of hit or miss. You probably want to have it included just
so that you have addressed the law but there may be more current data to use
here.
Whatever process you want to go about identifying that
area. Then, once you’ve identified the area that you want to, you run it
through two committees. And then after that, you've got to have a vote by the
legislative body to say “that’s what we want to send to the body.”
Now, you could have a vote actually before you have the
committee meetings saying this is what we accept and that’s what we’ll run
in front of public hearings. But, at the very end, you need to vote after
you’ve heard from the public so it’s not a done deal. Make sure that the
public’s had their… |
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Public
forum. |
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ST: |
Public
forum. You’ve got to have two. And don’t do ‘em the same day. |
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Can’t do it. |
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ST: |
Don’t do it
the same day. |
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Got to have
7 days. |
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ST: |
Make sure
everybody has their say and notice in the paper. I think it’s 15 days out
before each of ‘em. |
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That’s
right. |
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ST: |
Then, once you’ve done that, and you’ve got your
reasoning behind it and the area, then we bring it to the Coordinating
Committee and we go from there.
Pretty much, the Coordinating Committee is very much
the same. Everybody sits down, takes everybody’s suggestions, hash it out.
Once we get some sort of hash out then we have public hearings and if
there’s any changes to be made, we make the changes and vote on it then send
it back to the cities and see if they agree. |
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BM: |
Do we
completely put together a new Coordinating Committee? |
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ST: |
There will
be new members from my side. |
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BM: |
Will it be
just from your side. |
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ST: |
That’s the
only one that I can address. |
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BM: |
What I’m
saying is… Since Oakland has some things they didn’t have before, they’ve
got to have more members now, I think. |
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ST: |
If they are determined to be the largest city, yes,
they’ll have more members and whoever y’all appointed won’t have those
positions.
Then, of course, all the mayors or their
representatives. If some of y’all choose not to serve, you’ve got to have
your body ratify that that person can go in your place.
If you want to come, then you just show up. |
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BM: |
Unless y’all
know something I don’t know, I don’t think it will be controversial between
mayors. |
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BC: |
I think
we’re pretty well all worked out. |
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FC: |
If they
decide that they want me to continue to represent… |
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ST: |
If somebody
way back when put you on and they don’t change it, you’re there. |
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BC: |
I think the
reason why I’m so far… The Lt. Gov called me several months ago on that
western corridor. He was concerned about Gallaway’s portion, our portion and
Oakland’s portion so we got to work on ours right away, where we could sort
of get stuff down in a presentable form where we could work with it. So
that’s why we’re in the final stages on ours, totally. |
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BM: |
How many
members on that committee? Was it 21? |
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ST: |
That’s
possible. I haven’t counted. I think it’s over 20. |
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LG: |
Has Mayor
Lane talked to you about increasing their growth boundary up to Highway
18? |
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ST: |
He talked to me back during Oakland Expo. We sat down
and talked a little bit. He said that they were interested in doing
something. He didn’t say how far or where he wanted to stop. But he was in
favor of that.
I’m assuming he can, but there was something in there
about he had a certain amount of property in a county to do something. I’m
not sure if that’s on the front end or the back end or where, cause he has
so little in Fayette County. I don’t even know if… |
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LG: |
It’s
critical what he’s got though. It’s really of no advantage for LaGrange to
go in that direction because of his area that is currently considered to be
Grand Junction city limits. |
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ST: |
Right. |
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LG: |
Which is on
both sides of Hwy 57 East. |
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ST: |
No. He
hasn’t told me exactly what he wants to do. He did say they were interested
in doing something, though. |
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LG: |
Because of
that we’re really just “status quo” as far as LaGrange. |
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ST: |
If that’s
the way you want to go, that’s fine. All you have to do is show up at the
Coordinating Committee, then. |
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NJ: |
Will the
Coordinating Committee meet during the day or at night? |
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ST: |
It will
probably be at night to start with unless everybody… The first meeting will
be at night because that’s generally when most of ours are. If everybody
decides they want them during the day, you can. |
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NJ: |
That’s going
to determine whether or not I come. |
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ST: |
Generally, they work much better for the night plus the
public can usually attend, if they want to.
So if you all just sort of decide what you all want to
do and keep me in the loop so I can coordinate… |
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BM: |
So we’re
working again for a 20 year forecast, correct? |
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ST: |
Forecast. |
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BM: |
It’s plain
to see the guy from the State, the planner from the State didn’t know what
he was doing. Cause Oakland went way over his boundary. |
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LG: |
Is this the
last time? For 20 years? |
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BC: |
It’s every
3, isn’t it? |
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ST: |
Initially,
it’s 3. I’ll have to go back… I think you can open up more often than that
if you want to. But, I don’t know that we really want to get in the habit of
doing this too often. |
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BM: |
No. We might as well do what everybody thinks they need
now and be done with it.
I think everybody’s got a pretty good idea. |
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NJ: |
Quick question. What kind of timeframe? My board meets
the 2nd Monday of the month.
Do we need to move on this in October or I’ve got a
couple of months or…? |
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ST: |
I think you…
I’d go ahead and move forward on it. |
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BM: |
Well,
nobody’s really pressing. |
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ST: |
Nobody’s pressing. Like I said, all I got was Mayor
Mullins wanted to go ahead and move sooner than later on it because I think
he has some folks who want to be annexed actually into Oakland.
But I think he’s still got some work to do. It may take
him a month to have his meetings and his hearings and everything. I think
you’re safe in saying at least a month on the short side. |
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BC: |
Six weeks,
at least. |
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ST: |
You need to
go ahead and start the ball rolling. |
